[Sc_coordination] Re: [Coordination2024] PC proposal and draft CfP (action required)

dear Mieke overall I think the call is fine. Re the terminology I prefer "Long papers", "Short papers" and "Tool papers" (although obvious, I'd add 'original/unpublished/not submitted elsewhere' to the description of the papers). Re badges: is the concern related to the discussion we had in Lisbon about tools vs artefacts? Thanks & Bye eM On 30/10/2023 21:23, Simon Bliudze wrote: > Dear Mieke, all, > > W.r.t. Alberto's comment, I'd say the terms could be clearer if the > words were inverted to be "Long regular papers (7-15 pages)" and "Short > regular papers (4-6 pages)". In other words, "regular", here, stands in > opposition to "tool" and, as such, makes sense to me. However, I would > also be fine with "Long papers", "Short papers" and "Tool papers". > > This being said, the idea that one should not seek to fill the paper to > the maximum size unless that is necessary is valid independently of the > above and can be stated explicitly. > > More important than that — in my view, at least — is the complementary > point: if the paper is (roughly) 16 pages and would loose significantly > in clarity when shortened to 15, I would recommend that the PC be > flexible and tolerate the overflow. This might save a sleepless night > for the authors and a headache for the reviewers. I do not remember > whether we have implemented that policy with Laura in 2020 but we have > definitely had it in place for FormaliSE 2021 and it went perfectly > fine. *We did actually announce the flexibility in the CfP and had > reminded the PC at the start of the reviewing process.* > > Last but not least, unless I have miscounted the proposed PC has an > 11/23 female-to-male ratio, which is kind of underwhelming. True, this > is very close to the ratio we had in 2020 (9/18) but last year it was > already 12/17, which is much better. > > (For the SC, we are 9/17, which is better but only slightly ;-) ) > > All the best, > > Simon > > On 30/10/2023 15:40, Alberto Lluch Lafuente wrote: >> >> Thanks Mieke. >> >> The draft CFP looks good to me. >> >> >> I have a comment on regular papers: the used of term “long” sounds >> strange to me. Most conferences just call them “regular papers”; >> calling them “long” may be confusing. Additionally, I am not sure I >> understand (or recall) the rational behind the long range of pages >> (7-15 ). I guess it has something to do with “don’t fill 15 pages if >> what you have to say can be done succinctly in less pages”. Should >> this be explained in the call? >> >> Something not related to this specific CfP: The steering committee has >> 26 members (almost the size of the PC). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alberto >> >> >> >>> On 30 Oct 2023, at 15.19, Mieke Massink <mieke.massink(a)isti.cnr.it> >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Steering Committee members, >>> >>> Below please find a letter by the PC Chairs of Coordination 2024 in >> which they present their proposal for the Programme Committee as part >> of a draft CfP. The draft CfP including the PC list are attached to >> this email. >>> >>> There is one point that should be made more clear, I think, which >> concerns the procedure and aim of Artifact Badging. However, in order >> not to delay the submission of the draft to you all I decided to >> circulate the draft as it is now and ask you for possible further >> suggestions to be communicated to the PC Chairs. >>> >>> It would be great if you could let me know your observations by >> friday, November 3, at latest. As usual, I'll collect your suggestions >> and pass them on to the PC Chairs in anonymised form. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Mieke >>> >>> >>> ==== Letter by Francesco and Ilaria: >>> >>>> Dear Mieke, >>>> we have prepared a first (partial) draft of the CfP, including >> proposals for the AE chair and PC . >>>> >>>> More specifically, we have: >>>> - left the Scope section unchanged; >>>> - slightly revised/extended the list of Main Topics; >>>> - indicated the invited speaker (we are happy to inform you that >> Marieke Huisman accepted our invitation 😀 ); >>>> - slightly revised the paper categories (in particular, we propose >> to merge short and long tool papers in a single category); >>>> - revised the timeline (in particular, we propose to have two >> submission windows for artefacts: the idea is that artefacts >> associated to tool papers play a crucial role for that kind of papers, >> hence we would like to require to submit such artefacts together with >> the tool paper submission; instead, artefacts associated to accepted >> papers of other categories would be submitted after the camera-ready, >> so as not to rush the authors to submit the artefacts while they are >> finalizing the paper); >>>> - agreed with LMCS the organisation of a joint COORDINATION/FORTE >> special issue; >>>> - indicated Saverio Giallorenzo as Publicity Chair (we propose a >> new Publicity Chair since Giorgio Audrito has been promoted as member >> of the PC); >>>> - slightly revised/extended the list of PC members; >>>> - proposed Rumyana Neykova as Artefact Evaluation Committee chair. >>>> >>>> Please let us know if you think the draft is fine for the >> evaluation by the SC. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Francesco & Ilaria >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Dr. Mieke Massink Ph.D. - Senior Researcher >>> >>> FM&&T Group (http://fmt.isti.cnr.it) >>> >>> C.N.R. - Area della Ricerca di Pisa - Ist. 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